I fully understand that people tend to create ad-hoc opinions just to not loose a discussion, and I'm certainly not someone who has never done that, especially in discussions when you are very upset, and it's all about feelings rather than reason.DRW wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:41 pmI don't think you lie about your opinion in general. I just think that you twist the truth when you make it sound like you actually thought about Sudoku not having a plot. I'm pretty convinced that this discussion here is the very first time that you ever put those two things, Sudoku and story, together.
And why you should do this? Because people tend to create ad-hoc opinions on the fly to not lose a discussion.
Similar thing here: When I basically told you: "Don't be silly about the theme of Minesweeper enriching the experience. Do you also miss a story in Sudoku?", you pretended that, indeed, you do.
But I'm pretty sure that there was never a single moment in your life before our discussion when you actually thought: "Man, why can't Sudoku have a plot?"
Hence, up until now you didn't hold that opinion about Sudoku, simply because you never thought about it. Yet here you are, telling me that the missing story in Sudoku is an actual loss.
If that's really your opinion, tell me when you thought about this fact before our discussion? When did you ever see a Sudoku and thought: "So boring without a plot"? Because if those thoughts never crossed your mind in the past, then the statement that the missing plot is a loss for you is a clear lie: If you never thought about it, you obviously never missed it. And if you never missed it, you couldn't have felt this is a loss.
So, if you want to be convincing, explain me the situation in your life where you actually felt disappointment for Sudoku not having a plot.
But I think you are a bit obsessed what exact words I'm using, rather than trying to understand what I'm talking about.
Have I ever seriously thought about Sudoku being a theme-less game? Perhaps I have, it's not really an unlikely thought or anything, but I have no memory of it so I can't say I have. And I haven't said that I have, have I? Your question was clearly if I thought Sudoku being theme-less is a loss or not and I said it were. And that is basically the same thing I said in my first post so it's evidently not an on-the-spot-made-up-opinion.
After that you made-up an unlikely situation where I was sitting down in front of a Sudoku game looking at it and sighing, wishing it would have a good story. My answer to that is that you put that in my mouth yourself.
The reason I said you can believe what you want is really no other than that I was a little upset in that you didn't seem to believe me in a very trivial matter, and I'm sorry about that. I have a tendency to take it a little personal when people think I'm lying although I generally try very hard not to lie or involve personal feelings (doesn't always works), and I don't think myself that I'm showing a general tendency to lie or make up excuses either.