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Author:  Myask [ Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nova the Squirrel (WIP)

So with all the ice blocks, minecarts, lava, and cola ads in world 3, are they to be called the Colava Mines?

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Oh Really?
Nice. I did my testing back in world 2 in a spot without access to deathpits, so the long time before an iceblock disappears stymied my efforts.

Besides, doing a running jump off of an up-B-placed block to a midair down-B gets you far enough for everything I could find. I suspect the world 1 level showing vertical transitions could be skipped about thusly.

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as long as it's not so "useful" that the entire game ends up being played like that, and as it's still somewhat difficult to pull off.
It doesn't work without a deathpit (or lava/water, but either means you can just use icepower to walk across) and iceblock power is mostly unavailable until world 3 (…outside of the shop, hmm. But, at 30-40 a pop, and no currency multipickups, it's not cheap.) On a spike pit, it already acts like Shovel Knight's Mobile Gear, intentionally [as we've had that "something cool" secret behind onesuch] so…

Also, iceblock power doesn't kill enemies, only stuns, which is a surprisingly large drawback!

Author:  NovaSquirrel [ Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nova the Squirrel (WIP)

I've considered making it so that you have to copy an ability before you can buy it, but you can get the ice ability early on world 2, and you don't unlock the shop until you beat world 1 anyway.

I'm actually not sure what good prices for items would be. I probably should go and make statistics for the amount of money in each level so I can get a feel for what the average amount is.

Author:  Erockbrox [ Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nova the Squirrel (WIP)

I really like those arrow block puzzles. I'll have to play this again now that I have an N8 everdrive. Really like the art style.

Author:  Myask [ Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nova the Squirrel (WIP)

You're probably gonna have to revamp the shop menu anyway, since it's close to full-up now (once you add more abilities). Probably break into sub-menus.

An addition that currently might make sense: eat-in (that is, immediately applied) riceballs* pizza. Even if you do normally refill health between stages, an eat-in XL would make sense [starting with 8 rather than 4]. Of course, a small discount would apply compared to take-out.

Bug report: You can reorganize the pause menu on page 2 with select, but it doesn't move the actual actions (at least, not Exit Level- I moved it to the bottom, and it did nothing there, but empty slot 1 then would still exit level). It also doesn't save the new positions…unsurprising as I don't think this was quite intended.

hey, the shop menu doesn't wrap horizontally. That would reduce the maximum number of presses to get to any item by 3, y'know.

A buy-multiple (10?) option would be nice?

The shop doesn't tell you "you can't have more of those" when you try to buy more than 99 of an item, though at least it doesn't charge you.

Bug report: fireballs can stick in ground. Bounce a normal shot from an exactly four-block-high drop [there's one in last room of 1-1…but no fire enemy] and it'll stick into the lower ground. (Five doesn't work.)

Huh, world1's music is gone. :(

*Eat your hamburgers, Apollo.

Author:  NovaSquirrel [ Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nova the Squirrel (WIP)

Ten abilities seems like a good number to me. Kirby's Adventure (for comparison) has about 20 normal ones, with weird duplicates like fire/burning and ice/freeze that I would have combined. You're right that there isn't a lot of space for potential additional items of any sort in the future though.

The eat-in could make sense for fixed-inventory stages, giving you a little help since you can't carry outside items in.

I took out the music a long time ago because a <30 second loop that plays throughout the entire game got a little annoying. I'll probably actually use that theme a bit later in the game.

Author:  qalle [ Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nova the Squirrel (WIP)

Nice game. The controls feel a bit too slippery for me, though, even with the slow setting.

I found a bug: if you slow down just before falling off a block and turn back while falling, you "zip" back up. I created an animated GIF. (This bug may already have been mentioned; I didn't read the whole thread.)

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Author:  NovaSquirrel [ Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nova the Squirrel (WIP)

Yeah, I'm not sure if I actually want to fix that or not? Since it provides some leniency that might be helpful, but I also get complaints about it.

I'm not sure what I should do about the slipperiness, probably provide a mode that turns off acceleration completely? But I think instantly jumping between speeds of 0, 2 and 4 pixels per frame might not be very good for a game that requires a lot of accuracy. There's the "fast" acceleration mode at the very least, which doubles acceleration and deceleration speeds.

Author:  tepples [ Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nova the Squirrel (WIP)

qalle wrote:
if you slow down just before falling off a block and turn back while falling, you "zip" back up. I created an animated GIF.

This is the sort of helpful collision bug that often pops up in Nova's games and eventually gets turned into a similar official behavior.

Something similar happened when I remade Nova's Forehead Block Guy in Pygame. The original had a bug allowing sticking to a wall and jumping from it, and I recast it as the ability to grab a ledge and scoot up like in Prince of Persia or Super Smash Bros. My version added a tradeoff between mobility and offense: ledge grabbing can't be used while tossing blocks.

Author:  qalle [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nova the Squirrel (WIP)

NovaSquirrel wrote:
I'm not sure what I should do about the slipperiness, probably provide a mode that turns off acceleration completely? But I think instantly jumping between speeds of 0, 2 and 4 pixels per frame might not be very good for a game that requires a lot of accuracy. There's the "fast" acceleration mode at the very least, which doubles acceleration and deceleration speeds.

I meant the acceleration is too high to my taste, even with the "slow" option. (Now that I think of it, the word "slippery" was probably ambiguous in this context.)

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