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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:12 pm 
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Fooled you, I'm actually a girl!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:59 pm 
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rainwarrior wrote:
mikejmoffitt wrote:
I'm not sure women love being referred to as females.

I think we shouldn't force unnecessary context on words like this. There's absolutely no reason to think that JoeGtake2 meant to imply "sub human" or "inferior" or anything of the sort with the word "female". This is not a word that necessarily carries that context, and it usually doesn't. (That said, "women" is probably the better choice of word, by default.)

I only brought this up because it's a very frequent complaint. The intended meaning may be clear to users of the forum, but necessarily to those with an outside perspective.

More on topic, I think positive exposure to both something specific like NES development and more broad like an appreciation for computing is something that must be done early on. It is good that some high schools are willing to introduce students to programming, but at least from my experience the result is that people hate it or want to make money with it as mentioned earlier in the thread. Finding someone willing to teach at that level who can be passionate about why they enjoy it is certainly a challenge.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:04 pm 
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rainwarrior wrote:
mikejmoffitt wrote:
I'm not sure women love being referred to as females.

I think we shouldn't force unnecessary context on words like this. There's absolutely no reason to think that JoeGtake2 meant to imply "sub human" or "inferior" or anything of the sort with the word "female". This is not a word that necessarily carries that context, and it usually doesn't. (That said, "women" is probably the better choice of word, by default.)

I always thought of female as an umbrella term. I wouldn't call a 40 year old female a girl, and I definitely wouldn't call an 8 year old female a woman.

Erockbrox wrote:
I know, I've always just wanted to grab a hot girl on a hot sweaty school bus and just throw her down on the bus seat and just start banging the heck out of her in front of everyone.

:shock:
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On a more serious note, I used to really like watching girls boobs while riding on the bus because usually its bumpy and you get to see their boobs bounce up and down.

Still, :shock:

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Thanks for the input, everybody. Yeah, I guess part of me is being a little sensitive to the matter too - in portraying NES homebrewing, I didn't want to come off as completely neglecting a demographic if that demographic did exist and I just had not met them yet. I didn't necessarily want to make any sort of dramatic case for women in the community, but just wanted to make sure that if they were out there, they were proportionally represented. Didn't mean for things to get all political. haha.

Just something I HAVE noted which might be interesting - I taught game development at the high school level for 6 years. My classes averaged about 50-50 gender ratio, which I thought was awesome. Every semester it was the same...the girls seemed bored (or pretended to hate it for appearances or whatever) while the boys were sort of ruthless in reminding them that game development was a boys club and only dudes understood what really made a good game. By the end of the semester, EVERY semester for the 11 semesters that we invited outside developers to blindly critique and judge the games, girls took the top spots for best game. Every single time.

I thought that was actually really neat and inspiring. :-)

You lucky bastard... In order to take a programming class at my school, you have to take a class in 9th grade that teaches you how to use Microsoft Office, which about half of the class still doesn't know how to do, and a lot of the people are sophomores too. I learned how to use Microsoft Word when I was 6 years old at my old school in Virginia. It was really cool, because if you had any remaining time when you got done with the lesson, you got to play on Kid Pix. Anyone remember that? Anyway, I bet I'm not even going to like the programming class when I get there, because it's sure as hell not going to teach you ASM. (And not on the 65816. :wink: ) it's probably going to be RubyPython+++++ or whatever bloated, inefficient garbage. That kind of reminds me, my father got me this Raspberry Pi thing to "program" on or whatever. I haven't even touched it. Should I?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:44 pm 
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Hi there... female NESdever chiming in. I've been lurking on the boards since the early 2000s, and got my account here in 2006 or so, but I don't post much. I think a few folks here know me or have collaborated with me in some way, though.

I'm the only woman I know of who has released NES homebrew. (Though I'd love to meet more!)

I think there are a number of factors that turn girls away from homebrew culture before they can get deeply invested in it. For example, when I was younger, forums felt especially unwelcoming to girls, so I mostly taught myself 6502 out of old programming books.

My latest NES release was in September (http://partytimehexcellent.itch.io/elec ... une-teller), and I'm working on a new NES game now. I've been hacking various Nintendo platforms since I was about 17 or so. (My most recent hack was putting one of my NES homebrews inside of Animal Crossing for Gamecube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkDweI9U4Jg).

My area of interest is in representing femininity and girls' cultures through 8-bit games. So you'll see that most of my graphics and music tend toward the pink and cutesy side.

Hope this helps the discussion!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:50 pm 
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Everybody Run! It's A Woman! (I'm just kidding. :P ) Also, 8 posts in about 6.5 years? Wow. I often post a bunch of random junk that doesn't really help this website much. (Like the post I just made now.)


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:57 pm 
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Rachel wrote:
So you'll see that most of my graphics and music tend toward the pink and cutesy side.

Well I know a couple of girls who can't stand this colour.

As for the cuteness, I as a boy agree that cute games are the best and is one of the reason I like mostly old games over their more recent counterpart. Although I am also a big fan of Castlevania which definitely isn't "cute" so this doesn't mean everything.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:05 pm 
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Bregalad wrote:
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As for the cuteness, I as a boy agree that cute games are the best


Well said.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:15 pm 
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Rachel wrote:
cute games are the best

IMO, stylized games are the best. That includes the cute, but also other styles. Realistic stuff is boring because of the lack of character, and looks weird because it's never real enough.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:04 pm 
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This is a site dedicated to development of ancient Nintendo consoles, not a dating site for people dedicated to the development of ancient Nintendo consoles.


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Locking thread -- there now appear to be people showing up who do not understand the intentions of the original request, and it will just continue to escalate into a never-ending discussion/debate.


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