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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:46 pm 
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My PC is full of loads of downloaded junk. I think organizing my computer will make programming much easier, because there would be less clutter.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:50 pm 
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Um, well, this is basically all I have on my computer.

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And here's where I have all my SNES programming related stuff:

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Other than that, I have some pictures in the Pictures folder and Dolphin populated the Documents folder with some stuff.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:59 pm 
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short answer: "not well enough"

long answer: it takes too long to explain everything in full, so I'll just run the important (relevant to this forum) parts down:

* personal folder (F:\reem\ (lol)) with various subfolders, including one for every retro console I plan on working with
* "retrodev" folder which holds a number of subfolders containing tools and docs about every retro console I plan on working with
* the struggle to get a nice desktop without too many icons is real. as of this post there's 5 columns of 11 icons, plus two more in the 6th column.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:50 pm 
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Very.

I'm a bit of a pack rat; I have over 50 GB of personal stuff from the last 15+ years, plus another 150 GB or so of accumulated games, movies, music, art and so on, all neatly organized and backed up.

Desktop icon count: zero. I can find everything that didn't come with the OS via the file manager. :P


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:57 pm 
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Answering the subject title, ignoring the content: they're as organised as I care for them to be. My brain tends to remember where things are, thus there is no real "universal way" to organise things for all human beings that fits everyone's needs/styles.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:18 am 
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Half of my computer is in C:\temp

I wish someone invented a computer OS without requiring a folder tree structure, because it's not adapted to many applications.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:50 am 
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Bregalad wrote:
I wish someone invented a computer OS without requiring a folder tree structure, because it's not adapted to many applications.

I think there is an Apple/Macintosh focus on letting users search for things rather than having to interact with files and folders. Though I think there are a lot of drawbacks to a search-only workflow too, and the prioritization has led to the Mac "finder" UI being underdeveloped and less usable for getting around the actual file structure than linux/windows equivalents.

On the far end of the spectrum, a lot of android apps will scan the file system for only files it can use, and try to just present these to you in various ways, rather than allowing a user to hunt through folders. This is often frustrating as the thing you are interested in gets buried in the flood of other files you have, or if the scanning system fails or is out of date and slow/mysterious to refresh. As a result of the file system being generally hidden from the user, most android devices tend to have really horrifying directory trees if you actually go and look.


I'm reminded of the discussion earlier about sub-forums where disorganization by putting everything in a large group is weighed against obscurity from putting things into too many small groups. The ideal solution that occurred to me there was tagging.

I'm trying to imagine a file system now where instead of folders you just have tags, and every file can have multiple tags. Tags could have a hierarchy like folders do, but files wouldn't be contained by a tag. I wonder how well that would work... I'm imagining a UI with a folder-like hierarchy of tags on the left, but you multi-select from them, and the relevant files appear on the right... you could also negatively-select a tag to exclude its results!

Probably there are some weird consequences of using such a file system that I can't think of at the moment. Like wanting to have two files with the same name-- if they have different tag sets it's probably okay, but if the user's current view includes both there's some UI work that needs to disambiguate them (show the differing tags next to the filename?). I'm thinking about stuff like group move operations, trying to remove or add tags to many files at once... could be a really confusing trying to merge two groups and some of them have identical-filename conflicts that you gotta resolve... but maybe you'd just get used to being careful about that.


I guess music files already have a system like this on some OSes, with genre tags, etc. but I've never tried using them because I know my music collection and I don't listen by genre, I just pick the specific music I want, so a simple folder structure is already perfect for me.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:04 am 
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I made (emulated) to some extent a tag-based filesystem organization that I use for my projects : everything is under '"project", and I have various folders that contains various symlinks to those projects. So I have by-platform, by-language and by-cpu, under those folders there are other folders for each platform, language, cpu, and these contains symlinks to projects corresponding to the description. Example: I have a project 'nesgame', then the original folder is in projects, and I have various symlinks in by-platform/nes/nesgame, by-language/asm.6502/nesgame, and by-cpu/6502/nesgame.

This was inspired by the sysfs filesystem organization.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:59 am 
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Bregalad wrote:
Half of my computer is in C:\temp


Sounds like me.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:58 am 
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C:\temp isn't even the system temp folder.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:02 am 
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Bad enough that if I actually defragmented my drive it would probably cause a BSOD.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:15 pm 
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I keep most stuff in my home directory (/home/user/) and subdirectories of it; stuff I transferred from my old computer I mostly placed in /home/user/backups/ and /var/www/ as applicable.

I do not have a desktop environment and so there are no icons, and I have no graphical file manager installed (I use the command-line). If I know the name of the file I can type in the name.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:07 pm 
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Revenant wrote:
Bregalad wrote:
Half of my computer is in C:\temp


Sounds like me.

Same here, but all my shit is in the D drive. Except for some things in the Desktop, my C drive is always ready for formatting, which is something I do every time the system starts to feel wonky.

Dwedit wrote:
C:\temp isn't even the system temp folder.

That's how it's supposed to be... You don't want the system erasing your files to free up space.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:20 pm 
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tokumaru wrote:
Same here, but all my shit is in the D drive. Except for some things in the Desktop, my C drive is always ready for formatting, which is something I do every time the system starts to feel wonky.


I keep most of my actual important/useful stuff on a non-system partition, but I tend to have a somewhat embarrassing amount of files in c:\temp anyway, up to and including actual programming projects.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:28 am 
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Same here, but all my shit is in the D drive. Except for some things in the Desktop, my C drive is always ready for formatting, which is something I do every time the system starts to feel wonky.

Yeah, I also have a lot of stuff in D:\temp too, and many important things are better organized in the D:\ drive.

It's also cool to keep personal stuff separate from system and program stuff, so that you can mount your D:\ drive in linux when dual booting without tooching the C:\ drive.


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