Pokun wrote:I understood it from reading that wiki page that he is Junior.
Wiki pages don't count when it comes to conroversial stuff like that, unless they can quote official sources. After all, the people who write that stuff are poeple like you an me. I could go there right now and edit it.
Here's a little task: Go to a wiki page about "Street Fighter" and tell me who won the "Street Fighter II" tournament. Afterwards, I'll show you something.
Pokun wrote:And since Nintendo removed Junior from the audience in some stadium track in Mario Kart Wii, it makes me think they didn't want to have two Juniors of different age at two different places at once.
It could also mean that they removed him because it doesn't make sense to have a young Junior when his own son is shown as an adult. Having a young Junior in modern games make no sense either way, so this isn't an indication about anything.
Oh, and by the way: What could we conclude from this?
Probably nothing since the game also has Mario and Baby Mario. And that one "Yoshi's Island" sequel has Baby Mario and Baby Donkey Kong with a tie. Which would mean again that modern day Donkey Kong really is the original arcade Donkey Kong, with Junior being DKC DK's son and Cranky being a separate character altogether.
This plot is so fucked-up.
Pokun wrote:Oh in my opinion there are no problems at all. I fully accept the fact that the storyline in Mario games isn't carefully designed to always make sense.
In my opinion, the storylines up until "Super Mario World" do
make sense. Since the plots are so basic, there's not much to not
Donkey Kong kidnaps Pauline. (The whole stuff about Mario mistreating him was never in the game itself, only in some additional manuals etc., so we can simply declare this and the stupid circus Game & Watch game as non-canon.) Mario defeats him.
And locks him up. Junior rescues his father. They escape and go back to their homeworld. (Maybe with a stop in Stanley's greenhouse.)
Two years later, the Mario Brothers become plumbers.
Two years later, Bowser kidnaps the Princess and Mario and Luigi rescue her.
Another three years later, Mario and his friends free the dream world of Subcon from Wart by entering that world through dreaming.
In the same years, Bowser and his new children attack. Mario defeats them and they retreat to Dinosaur Island.
Where they kidnap the Princess again when Mario, Luigi and Princess Toadstool make vacation there.
You see? The simplicity of the storylines means that you don't even have to "not think about it too much". These are all stories that could be episodes in Mario's life, without any contradiction to begin with.
It all goes downhill with "Super Mario Land 2" where Mario suddenly owns a castle on his private island for some reason.
Then the stupid story with them being brought by the stork. (I always thought Mario is supposed to be the everyman, not some mythical creature that doesn't get born, but that gets delivered by a stork. Mario is not a fucking Smurf.)
Then the "Donkey Kong" extended remake that totally disregards the game "Donkey Kong Jr." and seems to imply that "Super Mario Bros." plays right after "Donkey Kong".
And then the fourth wall breaking in "Donkey Kong Country".
And so on.
Pokun wrote:What I don't like though is when Nintendo are changing a lot of stuff for apparently no reason. First they say Mario's and Luigi's family name is Mario but then that sounded silly so they suddenly decided they have no family name.
Wasn't that only from the movie?
Pokun wrote:Then they say Mario is no longer officially a plumber (ignoring the fact that he always had all kinds of professions).
What? Are they nuts?