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Re: More NSF Requests

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Some more Poor-Quality Video Games Of Dubious Origin™
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Karmic wrote:Now how about you tell me which NSFs caused you to write this instead of being pointlessly vague?
I don't want to single out anyone, but here's a short list:
Electrician and Fleet Commander initialize $4017 to $C0 (Electrician lets the FDS BIOS do that), which the NSFs lack. The same thing with T.M.N.T. II and Track & Field II. All of Karmic's NTSC NSF files that I have checked have the correct playback rate, all of MrNorbert1994's NTSC NSF files that I have checked have the wrong playback rate. There are likely others that I have not checked. That's why I made a general comment instead of enumerating all the files that are affected.

I always try to remember to put a $4017 write in the NSF Init routine even if the original game writes nothing/$00/$40, because many popular NSF players don't seem to know about the proper power-on state.

One might argue that the difference is not audible for a particular game, but to prove that it is not audible, you would have do to an A/B comparison of an NSF without and one with $4017 initialization. Just always including a $4017 write for safety seems less troublesome.

The difference in playback rates is not immediately audible during simple playback, but becomes relevant when creating NSFEs files from NSF files, and the song lengths and fade-out times from official soundtracks suddenly end up being off by several seconds.
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Well, I'm hell not going to change the playback rate in my NSFs, (over 4000) since as long as they work on emulators and on hardware who cares...
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Maybe you could change it for future NSFs at least.
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NewRisingSun wrote:
Karmic wrote:Now how about you tell me which NSFs caused you to write this instead of being pointlessly vague?[/quote
The difference in playback rates is not immediately audible during simple playback, but becomes relevant when creating NSFEs files from NSF files, and the song lengths and fade-out times from official soundtracks suddenly end up being off by several seconds.
OK...

We aren't fussing with NSFEs for a reason.

NSFEs are invented for people who have no idea how to rip, and have no basic knowledge about how lookup-tables work.
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NSFEs were invented by people who wanted track names and track lengths in the files. If the playback rate is wrong in the NSF header, then the song will have a different length between hardware players that usually ignore the field and emulators that honor it.
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I understand that, but like I said, we won't fuss with it.
For me: when I want to listen an NSF I just fire up my player / emulator whatever and that's all.
I don't care for fadeouts and tracknames.

Not to mention, you can do track naming in NSFs, by writing a text in the end of file in the NSF.
You just need to watch that part via hex editor or a notepad that's all.

For example Karmic's 8Bit Music Power NSFs has a feature like this.
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I understand that, but like I said, we won't fuss with it.
What, you insist on putting the wrong rate in future NSFs just for the heck of it?
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Because that's what I got used to.

end of story
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That's the dumbest possible reason. You're pathological.
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If this makes you happy...
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More strikes off the unripped games list.
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A whole series of FDS porno games. Hm.
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Comic Sakka Series Touma Senki #3 - Ryuujin Sensei Kikiippatsu.nsf
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Comic Sakka Series Touma Senki #2 - Mermaid no Gyakushuu.nsf
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More.
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BodyConQuest I - Abakareshi Musume Tachi.nsf
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Thank-you for proving my point, Karmic: Attached NSF is your Wu Shi Hun NSF with the correct $4017 write added. Note how the guitar-like instrument right in the first song now sounds like in the game, while it sounds plucked too fast in your file.
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