Can I dump Multi carts with Kazoo cartridge INL Retro Dumper

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Can I dump Multi carts with Kazoo cartridge INL Retro Dumper

Post by ouso1999 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:21 pm

Hi Guys
I have famicom multicarts since 1995 that I really like to dump.So Can I dump them using Kazoo cartridge INL Retro Dumper ?
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Re: Can I dump Multi carts with Kazoo cartridge INL Retro Du

Post by lidnariq » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:04 pm

Yes, but if the cartridges do anything funny you'll have to reverse engineer how they work.

Opening the cartridge, and then taking pictures, is a good first step.

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Post by byemu » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:37 pm

ouso1999 wrote:Hi Guys
I have famicom multicarts since 1995 that I really like to dump.So Can I dump them using Kazoo cartridge INL Retro Dumper ?
If the cart with auto reset option,maybe you can not dump the cart.
if no,you can debug the mmc,and dump it.
* dump 32k prg from 0x8000 to 0xFFFF
* debug 32k prg,try to find witch address to be written.
* try to write these address, then find page bank addressed and values.

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Post by ouso1999 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:48 pm

so if I take photos of them from inside , it's possible to specify if they can be dumped?
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Post by lidnariq » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:28 pm

Extremely likely.

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Post by zxbdragon » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:18 pm

Waiting for a new ROM :mrgreen:

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Post by ouso1999 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:39 pm

I uploaded the pics above in the original post
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Post by lidnariq » Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:06 pm

Pictures of both sides, please :)

It's going to be pretty tricky to figure out what's going on with the ones that are a single epoxy blob.

Do you already have a kazoo, or are you trying to decide if it's worth trying to buy one?
If you don't already have one, how hard would it be to get/make a TapeDump cartridge?

Also, what did the outside of the cartridges look like?

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Post by ouso1999 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:07 pm

lidnariq wrote:Pictures of both sides, please :)

It's going to be pretty tricky to figure out what's going on with the ones that are a single epoxy blob.

Do you already have a kazoo, or are you trying to decide if it's worth trying to buy one?
If you don't already have one, how hard would it be to get/make a TapeDump cartridge?

Also, what did the outside of the cartridges look like?
well I uploaded them :)
no I don't have it but just interested in buying it specially for these cartridges.They're very significant to me :roll:
no it's too hard for me to make that tool 'cause you can tell I'm kinda noob and it's really hard for me buy such chips and stuff that I don't know anything about so I'd prefer to buy it if it's worthy :mrgreen:
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Post by ouso1999 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:31 am

so can I dump them with this tool?'cause if it can be , I'm gonna buy it for sure
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Re: Can I dump Multi carts with Kazoo cartridge INL Retro Du

Post by lidnariq » Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:36 pm

It will not be trivial. We don't know the hardware in those multicarts, and they're not even in Санчез's collection, so there's basically no documentation.

It is possible to reverse-engineer the mapper, hence why I suggested starting with the cheaper route of TapeDump... the first step will be dumping the cartridges as though they were mapper 0/NROM.

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Post by ouso1999 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:01 pm

lidnariq wrote:It will not be trivial. We don't know the hardware in those multicarts, and they're not even in Санчез's collection, so there's basically no documentation.

It is possible to reverse-engineer the mapper, hence why I suggested starting with the cheaper route of TapeDump... the first step will be dumping the cartridges as though they were mapper 0/NROM.
well I'm gonna give it a try and read the tutorial :)
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Re: Can I dump Multi carts with Kazoo cartridge INL Retro Du

Post by byemu » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:06 pm

The easiest way is send me your cartridge, i can help you dump :D .

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