Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

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Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by DvD » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:39 pm

I'm confused. There are two links out there for mappers.

This one is often linked to in this forum. It contains only a handful of mappers.
http://home.comcast.net/~olimar/NES/powerpak_loopy.zip
(and technically: http://home.comcast.net/~olimar/NES/mmc5.zip)

The one actually linked to from retrousb is:
http://www.retrousb.com/downloads/POWERPAK134105.zip

Which one is the newest one?
If the former, then why does the retrousb site not contain the lastest ones?

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by rainwarrior » Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:42 pm

A lot of people take the one on retrousb and copy loopy's mappers (which are newer) over top of that set.

I have no idea why retrousb doesn't officially add them to the set on the website.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by furrykef » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:21 am

The 1.34 mappers at retrousb do seem to include loopy's mappers, since there's a "LOOPYS README.TXT" included that matches the readme from loopy's zip.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by rainwarrior » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:39 am

That zip contains mappers by loopy, but not loopy's latest mappers.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by koitsu » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:40 am

furrykef wrote:The 1.34 mappers at retrousb do seem to include loopy's mappers, since there's a "LOOPYS README.TXT" included that matches the readme from loopy's zip.
Have you done a binary comparison (think FC /B) between the two sets?

Chances are Loopy's are more recent/newer and what's on RetroUSB is older. And here's proof (note the date of my post, by the way). So unless the RetroUSB sets have been updated since my post............

Edit: rainwarrior has effectively said the same thing. I rest my case. :-)

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by furrykef » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:08 pm

My apologies, then.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by DvD » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:46 pm

rainwarrior wrote:A lot of people take the one on retrousb and copy loopy's mappers (which are newer) over top of that set.

I have no idea why retrousb doesn't officially add them to the set on the website.
Ok. That is sort of what I had done as I posted this. I went through and compared the modification dates of all the files and put the ones with the newest dates there. And it actually fixed a game that I had reported wasn't working properly. Valkyrie no Bouken by Namco, both the original and my translation, work now. Yeah!

So, isn't loopy the operator of retrousb? Wouldn't having the newest mappers on the site improve the reputation of the device and get him more sales. I mean, just the MMC5 alone (even w/o the music abilities) could make the difference for many people. I know there is a lot of confusion out there with people thinking it can't even do MMC5.
furrykef wrote:The 1.34 mappers at retrousb do seem to include loopy's mappers, since there's a "LOOPYS README.TXT" included that matches the readme from loopy's zip.
Yeah, this confused me too. The readme simpy needs to contain a date. Then, by looking at the date, we can always tell which is officially the newest. Modification dates can't always be trusted.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for discussing this.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by tepples » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:01 pm

No, bunnyboy runs retrousb, not loopy.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by DvD » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:21 pm

tepples wrote:No, bunnyboy runs retrousb, not loopy.
Ah, ok. So, bunnyboy runs the site and makes the carts?

Hmm. Even the readme included with the mapper set on retrousb says "loopy's".
Did loopy make all the mappers for the powerpak? Did he design or help design the the power pak?

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by thefox » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:36 pm

DvD wrote:
tepples wrote:No, bunnyboy runs retrousb, not loopy.
Ah, ok. So, bunnyboy runs the site and makes the carts?

Hmm. Even the readme included with the mapper set on retrousb says "loopy's".
Did loopy make all the mappers for the powerpak? Did he design or help design the the power pak?
loopy made better versions of mappers early on after the release of PowerPak. He has got nothing to do with RetroUSB besides that. loopy's readme is there because bunnyboy simply copied those files from loopy's mapper package verbatim.
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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by DvD » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:13 pm

thefox wrote: loopy made better versions of mappers early on after the release of PowerPak. He has got nothing to do with RetroUSB besides that. loopy's readme is there because bunnyboy simply copied those files from loopy's mapper package verbatim.
Thanks so much for clearing that up.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by deksar » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:40 pm

34 "planned" mappers, nothing in more than 2 years..
I guess they (retrousb.com) are not interested in improving PowerPak anymore. Sad.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by Drakon » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:47 pm

I like some of the kalle mappers for saving. The rest I use is mostly loopy. Right now I'm just patiently waiting for thefox to complete and hopefully sell me one of his fpga composite ppu rgb / s-video output thing and the krikzz famicom everdrive.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by Tricky » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:17 am

Drakon wrote: Right now I'm just patiently waiting for thefox to complete and hopefully sell me one of his fpga composite ppu rgb / s-video output thing
Do you even need one with your Ultra Famicom? :P
deksar wrote:I guess they (retrousb.com) are not interested in improving PowerPak anymore
Actually bunnyboy has confirmed that he's working on a revised PowerPak, to compete with the other upcoming NES/Famicom flashcarts, and that it'll have some unique hardware features, like implementing Scoreboard.

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Re: Which NES PowerPak mappers are the newest?

Post by deksar » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:44 am

Tricky wrote:Actually bunnyboy has confirmed that he's working on a revised PowerPak
Where he wrote that? I hope it will support ALL those "planned" mappers.
Tricky wrote:to compete with the other upcoming NES/Famicom flashcarts
which?
Tricky wrote:and that it'll have some unique hardware features, like implementing Scoreboard.
Tell me it's an online scoreboard! :-)

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