NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by koitsu » Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:26 pm

rainwarrior wrote:There's been number of "FPGA NES" projects in recent years. I suspect sooner or later somebody's going to release an open source one of decent quality, or even start selling a proprietary one, if this hasn't happened already.
I suspect the same.

Also while I'm here: I haven't been adamant about updating the Emulators wiki page (specifically the "Under development" section) with FPGA projects. So if anyone is actively developing one and they're not on the list, please put them there!

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by wyatt8740 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:17 am

Light-Dark wrote:On a related side note; is there anyone manufacturing new PPU's and 2A03's?
Not sure if they're new, and they're certainly not authentic (they've got swapped duty cycles on the square wave channels IIRC), but you can find RP2A03e clones on ebay regularly.
For the 2C02, no, no one makes them new, but there is a clone maker on some chinese site (I think it was AliExpress?) that sells clones that use discrete UMC PPUs and CPUs.

Personally, I'm guessing the NES 'mini' is going to be Wii hardware being recycled in a last-ditch effort by Nintendo to dump inventory not sold in Wii Minis (RVL-201's).
Speaking of which, I wonder what they'll make the model name for the NES thing. NES-201? RVL-301? HVC-201?
I'm not really planning to buy one, but if I see one cheap enough I might just to tear it down. Nothing can replace my Famicom for me.

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But if this can be exploited to boot wii or gamecube games, it could be a really cool toy for hackers (though we'd have to find a way to exploit the Wii Mini before we have much hope of similar on the 'NES mini' if this is what it is underneath).

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by mikejmoffitt » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:41 pm

If they're using Wii Mini hardware, they must have changed it a little, as the Wii Mini supported composite video only.

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by wyatt8740 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:47 pm

So the Wii Mini actually has different ICs than the original Wii and the RVL-101? It's not just pins left unconnected?

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by mikejmoffitt » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:01 am

The original Wii did not have HDMI.

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by tepples » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:42 am

Nintendo's habit more recently has been to coin new model number prefixes for revised systems.

Game Boy is DMG, but Game Boy Pocket is MGB.
Game Boy Advance is AGB, but Game Boy Advance SP is AGS, and Game Boy Micro is OXY.
Nintendo DS is NTR, but Nintendo DS Lite is USG.

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by tokumaru » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:21 am

I seriously doubt this is using Wii hardware.

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Post by ultrageranium » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:19 am

ultrageranium wrote:Anyone knows if this is targeted only to non Eastern Asian markets, or do they also have a Famicom classic Edition? (Or will this be a global product?)

Answering my own question :)

https://topics.nintendo.co.jp/c/article ... 45a6d.html

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by Myask » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:21 pm

And does that have no detachable controllers? :D

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by Banshaku » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:58 pm

Yes, it's like the real famicom.

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by tokumaru » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:37 am

This is really weird, because the NES version comes with normal sized controllers, which allows for a more authentic experience. Those tiny controllers in the Famicom version will probably feel pretty awkward.

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by Banshaku » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:56 am

Some store have already received some mock to show how it will looks like. Softmap in Akihaba seems to have one.

Here's the link of the article: http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/doc ... 23294.html

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Seems quite small, similar to the micro gameboy thing.

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by Drew Sebastino » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:04 pm

Why the hell are they keeping the hardwired controllers? I mean, authenticity with the controllers has already been thrown out the window.

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by koitsu » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:02 pm

Espozo wrote:Why the hell are they keeping the hardwired controllers? I mean, authenticity with the controllers has already been thrown out the window.
Because people right now will pay for nostalgia.

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Re: NES Classic Edition - Nintendo's own repro console

Post by Drew Sebastino » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:38 pm

Apparently, someone at GameSpot already got to play it and made a review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa_qLXeoggU

Of course you can create save states. I will say though, I like the feature where you can either play the games in 4:3 or the NES's native aspect ratio. But yeah, if you have an NES, you have no reason to buy one. I think these games look best on an old CRT to be honest.

It was funny though, the person talks about how $60 is not that expensive for what you're getting, and I was about to make a big argument about that until I remembered each title on the system goes for $30 now. :lol:

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