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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by qfwfq » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:20 pm

LuigiBlood wrote:Wiki is working now.
"Working" in a loose sense. The recent(?) change to different software broke a ton of internal links. The wiki is superficially nicer, but content-wise, it's a shadow of its former self.

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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by LuigiBlood » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:33 am

qfwfq wrote:
LuigiBlood wrote:Wiki is working now.
"Working" in a loose sense. The recent(?) change to different software broke a ton of internal links. The wiki is superficially nicer, but content-wise, it's a shadow of its former self.
Actually every single page are still there. The links may not work, but they're searchable. Also, it's a wiki: Edit it if you find broken stuff.

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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by qfwfq » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:46 am

LuigiBlood wrote:
qfwfq wrote:
LuigiBlood wrote:Wiki is working now.
"Working" in a loose sense. The recent(?) change to different software broke a ton of internal links. The wiki is superficially nicer, but content-wise, it's a shadow of its former self.
Actually every single page are still there. The links may not work, but they're searchable. Also, it's a wiki: Edit it if you find broken stuff.
A lot of images and files are broken or missing, and you can't find them in search. For example, check out this page:
https://wiki.superfamicom.org/schematic ... nd-pinouts

The images and PDFs near the top aren't discoverable through the site search, nor are they available at their original URLs. For example, this link:
https://wiki.superfamicom.org/snes/file ... _color.pdf

gives you this:

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Cannot GET /snes/files/snes_schematic_color.pdf
I'm not sure why you're defending these changes. This is a regression, pure and simple. A lot of the text content is there, but it's worse for the update. Links are broken. Images and files are missing. The maintainer of the wiki should have tested the new backend before committing a bunch of breaking changes.

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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by LuigiBlood » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:42 am

Okay, fine, there are issues, don't make it personal either.

I've let him know. I do think the current backend is better though.

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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by qfwfq » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:44 pm

LuigiBlood wrote:Okay, fine, there are issues, don't make it personal either.

I've let him know. I do think the current backend is better though.
I'm not sure how I've "made it personal." I have no idea who runs the site. I'm just reporting a high-impact bug.

I do apologize if I'm coming off icy, though. At the company I work at, we have a culture of writing "postmortems," in which we analyze and document the root causes of development or operations issues to make sure they don't happen again. These analyses tend to be impersonal and matter-of-fact: here's what broke, here's why, and here's what we can do to fix it in the short term and in the long term. That's the mode I'm in here.

In any event, thank you for letting the site maintainer know about the issues.

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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by psycopathicteen » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:58 pm

I think I know exactly how this happened. Somebody doesn't want people to make SNES homebrew games.

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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by HihiDanni » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:28 pm

That sounds pretty far-fetched. So far all signs point to negligence on the part of the site administrator rather than anything malevolent. But it would help a lot if whoever manages the site software were a regular here so we'd have a better idea of what's going on.
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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by Hamtaro126 » Wed May 16, 2018 12:13 am

The Super Famicom dev wiki is still up, But a new problem emerged recently:

Google had issued a "Security Warning" barring most people going to the site, Stating that someone over there didn't upgrade the HTTPS security certificate, marking it as a bad site...

Just to let you know!
AKA SmilyMZX/AtariHacker.

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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by KungFuFurby » Thu May 17, 2018 4:24 pm

The problem seems to have been resolved on my end. I got a warning from my browser the day you posted that warning. The warning went away today.

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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by koitsu » Thu May 17, 2018 8:33 pm

KungFuFurby wrote:The problem seems to have been resolved on my end. I got a warning from my browser the day you posted that warning. The warning went away today.
The SSL certificate was renewed today, which is why it's working now:

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Validity
    Not Before: May 17 14:50:42 2018 GMT
    Not After : Aug 15 14:50:42 2018 GMT
It looks like they're using Let's Encrypt for their certs (maybe they weren't before? Unsure), which means the certificate auto-expires every 90 days. This requires the server administrator set up some automation to renew it automatically at about the 60-75 day mark. So if they were using LE before, then maybe the automation broke/stopped working, thus expired.

Full verification of the current cert:

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$ echo | openssl s_client -connect wiki.superfamicom.org:443 -servername wiki.superfamicom.org | openssl x509 -noout -text
depth=2 O = Digital Signature Trust Co., CN = DST Root CA X3
verify return:1
depth=1 C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = Let's Encrypt Authority X3
verify return:1
depth=0 CN = wiki.superfamicom.org
verify return:1
DONE
Certificate:
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        Serial Number:
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    Signature Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption
        Issuer: C=US, O=Let's Encrypt, CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3
        Validity
            Not Before: May 17 14:50:42 2018 GMT
            Not After : Aug 15 14:50:42 2018 GMT
        Subject: CN=wiki.superfamicom.org
        Subject Public Key Info:
            Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
                Public-Key: (2048 bit)
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                    80:b1
                Exponent: 65537 (0x10001)
        X509v3 extensions:
            X509v3 Key Usage: critical
                Digital Signature, Key Encipherment
            X509v3 Extended Key Usage:
                TLS Web Server Authentication, TLS Web Client Authentication
            X509v3 Basic Constraints: critical
                CA:FALSE
            X509v3 Subject Key Identifier:
                30:54:0D:20:B1:CE:E9:07:F6:8D:43:51:B8:E5:FF:F0:60:13:3A:1E
            X509v3 Authority Key Identifier:
                keyid:A8:4A:6A:63:04:7D:DD:BA:E6:D1:39:B7:A6:45:65:EF:F3:A8:EC:A1

            Authority Information Access:
                OCSP - URI:http://ocsp.int-x3.letsencrypt.org
                CA Issuers - URI:http://cert.int-x3.letsencrypt.org/

            X509v3 Subject Alternative Name:
                DNS:wiki.superfamicom.org
            X509v3 Certificate Policies:
                Policy: 2.23.140.1.2.1
                Policy: 1.3.6.1.4.1.44947.1.1.1
                  CPS: http://cps.letsencrypt.org
                  User Notice:
                    Explicit Text: This Certificate may only be relied upon by Relying Parties and only in accordance with the Certificate Policy found at https://letsencrypt.org/repository/

            CT Precertificate SCTs:
                Signed Certificate Timestamp:
                    Version   : v1(0)
                    Log ID    : 55:81:D4:C2:16:90:36:01:4A:EA:0B:9B:57:3C:53:F0:
                                C0:E4:38:78:70:25:08:17:2F:A3:AA:1D:07:13:D3:0C
                    Timestamp : May 17 15:50:42.607 2018 GMT
                    Extensions: none
                    Signature : ecdsa-with-SHA256
                                30:45:02:20:4E:4E:3A:FE:EB:4F:09:25:06:8B:EE:3A:
                                F4:F8:77:27:73:E0:EB:81:16:94:0E:33:CC:20:AD:1F:
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                Signed Certificate Timestamp:
                    Version   : v1(0)
                    Log ID    : 29:3C:51:96:54:C8:39:65:BA:AA:50:FC:58:07:D4:B7:
                                6F:BF:58:7A:29:72:DC:A4:C3:0C:F4:E5:45:47:F4:78
                    Timestamp : May 17 15:50:42.726 2018 GMT
                    Extensions: none
                    Signature : ecdsa-with-SHA256
                                30:46:02:21:00:96:A3:44:B3:DF:FE:E5:73:2C:B8:5C:
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    Signature Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption
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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by psycopathicteen » Sat May 26, 2018 11:22 am

I just wrote a lot of new information on the "optimization" section about memory hierarchies. I would need to rewrite the last section of the page because the new section makes the section at the bottom of the page sound almost contradictory, because it explains how much the Direct Page can speed up code, and then it says not to move stuff in and out of the Direct Page.

EDIT:

I rewrote the bottom section too, so that it's less confusing. I hope this https://wiki.superfamicom.org/general-advice persuades people into realizing how powerful the 65816 actually is when you know how to use it.

I should make a section about the "little address self-fulfilling prophecy" where a 512 byte table of self-pointing addresses will automatically shrink down to 256 bytes if you use 8-bit addresses.
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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by Nicole » Sat May 26, 2018 9:31 pm

The only instruction that loads the Data Bank register is "PLB" which loads Data Bank "B" from the stack. This makes it tricky to change banks while in 16-bit accumulator mode, and "PEA $xxxx" only works with 16-bit values.
Here's a trick that can help:

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; Set data bank to $85
pea $8500
plb ; dummy read to get rid of extra byte
plb

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Re: SNES Wiki is down again!!!

Post by HihiDanni » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:06 pm

koitsu wrote:It looks like they're using Let's Encrypt for their certs (maybe they weren't before? Unsure), which means the certificate auto-expires every 90 days. This requires the server administrator set up some automation to renew it automatically at about the 60-75 day mark.
Not only does the actual certificate have to be renewed, the HTTP server has to be told to reload its configuration (at least, in nginx). This is the issue I ran into specifically. This is fixed by specifying a renew-hook in the cron job's commandline.
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