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Post by frantik »

well i've started adding stuff. I put a notice on my user page that all my contributions are 100% free.
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Now the site is not even working... Maybe we really need to make a new one after all. Anybody knows the cause this time? Upgrade? Network issue?
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Banshaku wrote:Now the site is not even working... Maybe we really need to make a new one after all. Anybody knows the cause this time? Upgrade? Network issue?
The authoritative nameservers for nesdevwiki.org are working correctly (they return an A record of 169.237.101.245 for nesdevwiki.org and www.nesdevwiki.org), so it's not DNS:

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$ dig @C.DNS.GANDI.NET a nesdevwiki.org.

; <<>> DiG 9.4.3-P1 <<>> @C.DNS.GANDI.NET a nesdevwiki.org.
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1998
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;nesdevwiki.org.                        IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
nesdevwiki.org.         10800   IN      A       169.237.101.245

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
nesdevwiki.org.         10800   IN      NS      c.dns.gandi.net.
nesdevwiki.org.         10800   IN      NS      b.dns.gandi.net.
nesdevwiki.org.         10800   IN      NS      a.dns.gandi.net.

;; Query time: 2627 msec
;; SERVER: 217.70.182.20#53(217.70.182.20)
;; WHEN: Wed Mar 25 00:45:19 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 109
Traceroute/mtr shows that the network path to that IP goes to UCDavis, probably in a dorm room or something:

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                                        Packets               Pings
 Host                                 Loss%   Snt   Rcv  Last   Avg  Best  Wrst
 1. gw.home.lan                        0.0%    38    38   0.4   0.4   0.3   0.5
 2. ???
 3. 68.85.191.37                       0.0%    38    38  10.6  13.7   8.7  26.5
 4. te-8-2-ur02.santaclara.ca.sfba.co  0.0%    38    38  18.3  14.1   8.2  31.0
 5. be-30-ar01.oakland.ca.sfba.comcas  0.0%    38    38  23.5  16.1  10.4  33.0
 6. pos-0-6-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ib  0.0%    38    38  21.6  19.1  12.1  45.2
 7. pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone  0.0%    38    38  18.4  19.9  15.4  32.0
 8. 137.164.130.217                    0.0%    38    38  19.5  27.2  15.7 148.3
 9. calren2-cust.plalca01.transitrail  0.0%    38    38  25.7  20.3  15.6  33.4
10. dc-svl-core1--svl-peer1-10ge.ceni  0.0%    37    37  21.6  21.2  15.8  39.1
11. dc-oak-core1--svl-core1-ge-1.ceni  0.0%    37    37  31.1  23.6  17.4  38.4
12. dc-oak-agg2--oak-core1-ge-2.cenic  0.0%    37    37  17.4  21.0  17.4  33.7
13. dc-ucd--oak-dc2-ge.cenic.net       0.0%    37    37  22.7  24.8  18.6  45.0
14. ucd-dc-hpr--hpr-f.ucdavis.edu      0.0%    37    37  19.1  24.1  18.8  47.7
15. hpr-f--cdf2.ucdavis.edu            0.0%    37    37  20.9  24.3  19.4  37.1
16. cdf2--adf7-2.ucdavis.edu           0.0%    37    37  21.1  24.4  19.2  40.2
17. adf7-2--bdf7-5.ucdavis.edu         0.0%    37    37  21.0  24.4  18.8  37.6
18. ???
There's no packet loss between myself and that part of the ucdavis.edu network.

169.237.101.245 does not respond to ICMP (ping) traffic, nor does it appear to respond to any other kind of traffic (UDP or TCP). Likewise, 169.237.101.245 does not answer on TCP port 80 (TCP SYN, but no ACK). Of course, we don't know if this machine is normally pingable or not, so it's hard to determine what the root cause is. Possibilities:

1) Server has crashed or is powered off,
2) Web server process on server isn't running,
3) Ethernet port is shut off or there's an AC power problem somewhere,
4) University network admins shut off something,
5) IP address of server changed (since this a campus, they could use DHCP; we don't know).

This is all speculative. I had no idea this site was being hosted at UCDavis. And as much as I love the campus/uni (really, I've been there!), I do not think such things should be hosted in such environments. I have to assume this is hosted in a dorm room, which really isn't a good place for something like this (no offence).
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@Koitsu:

Thanks for doing some investigation regarding the issue, I really appreciate it.

If what you found is accurate then we need to confirm this with AtariMike ASAP and start to move it on a real server then. Why leaving it on a possible dom room machine when you are offering something a lot better?
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Post by mattmatteh »

perhaps the wiki could be hosted here on parodius ? only problem here was when search was broke.

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Post by koitsu »

mattmatteh wrote:perhaps the wiki could be hosted here on parodius ? only problem here was when search was broke.

matt
Read the past 2-3 pages of the thread (re: hosted here). :)
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Post by Banshaku »

An emergency wiki is being built at the moment. Once the wiki will be ready for the public the link will be published. I hope we can make it available soon.
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Power outage

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We had a major power outage, so sorry about the downtime. Should be back up in a sec.

In the future, feel free to PM me if something isn't right.
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Edit: It's back up.
Last edited by atarimike on Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by Banshaku »

atarimike wrote:So unfortunately I can't get into the building the server is hosted at today. I've spoken with the management and I'll be able to get in tomorrow morning and get the server back up.

I'll let you all know when it's up.
Great, thanks for the follow-up.

Since the information is valuable for the nesdev community, should I suggest that we should make a mirror of this wiki? I could always figure out a way to make a read-only version hosted here.
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