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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:25 pm 
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Am I the only one that thinks the colors in Willow are a washed out nightmare? I mean seriously, there is hardly any contast at all.

I'm inclined to agree somewhat. A game should still look playable if all hues of $x1-$xC are transformed to $x7, or if the TV's "color" knob (saturation) is dialed down to zero.

$01-$0C: halfway between $0F (black) and $00 (dark gray)
$11-$1C: very close to $00
$21-$2C: very close to $10 (light gray)
$31-$3C: halfway between $10 and $30 (white)


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Man, I've checked out pretty much every game you guys listed and my head is starting to hurt. But I'm now more certain than ever if you gave me a screen shot of an NES game I could guess the year.


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I always thought KID's games had a really unique art style, very reminiscent of that weird '70s watercolor artwork seen on old Atari 2600 boxes:

Low G Man
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Doki Doki Yuuenchi
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Isolated Warrior
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Kick Master
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UncleSporky wrote:
...Actually that's a very nice tree...


You got me going on this one... So I did some more pixel art.

If I were to make an adventure game for the NES this is what it would probably look like:

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cartlemmy wrote:
UncleSporky wrote:
...Actually that's a very nice tree...


You got me going on this one... So I did some more pixel art.

If I were to make an adventure game for the NES this is what it would probably look like:


wow! you're really talented, that looks great.


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Dang cartlemmy! That's awesome! Now someone just needs to lick 8-way scrolling and bribe you :D


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Would you take a little criticism? Or basically just some suggestions. I know you just did it for fun but hey why not. :)

There's nothing particularly wrong with the trees, I think they look great, but I wish the smaller trees matched the big one a bit better. It gets really dark near the bottom but the other trees stay light. It doesn't have dithering on top and has it at the bottom, but the small trees are kind of the opposite of that.

I think the green bush thing is a little too chaotic to be easily recognizable. Looks a bit like some kind of tiny alien creature to me, leading the advance of a horde of other tiny alien creatures. Sometimes round Zelda style bushes are ok, I think they would fit fine with your style.

I love the effect of using bigger pixel chunks to stipple the edges of grass and dirt, but I don't know if there's enough of it going on. The diagonals are a bit too regular for me (though I know you might do it that way to save on tiles).

And I think the water effect is a little too regular and square in places, looks a bit odd. Almost like it was larger and you squished it down by resizing it with a selector tool.

I made this to illustrate.

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There are two slightly unique 16x16 tiles that will still tile next to each other perfectly on all four sides, just to break up the visible grid a bit. I just tiled them like a checkerboard.


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UncleSporky wrote:
Would you take a little criticism...

Good eye UncleSporky :) I actually took the bushes and the water from another project of mine (non-NES) where they were 20x20 tiles, and resized them to 16x16 without cleaning them up at all.

What you did with them looks great.


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Ever tried Rotsprite? It's really good at resizing and rotating sprites, it uses algorithms optimized for pixel art.

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Dwedit wrote:
Ever tried Rotsprite? It's a really good at resizing and rotating sprites, it uses algorithms optimized for pixel art.


I normally just nearest neighbor resize it (like above); then manually adjust it until it looks the way I like it (like I hadn't done above yet). But if there's an easier way it sounds good to me. Thanks.

EDIT: I just checked it out. The results are really impressive.

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I went ahead and made some changes based on your recommendations (and actual modifications):
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I have to agree with you it looks better this way.


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This thread delivers!

@cartlemmey Damn! That looks awesome! (especially with UncleSporky's touch up!)

EDIT: Even better!

@BMF54123 I had never even heard of any of those games before. Kick master looks pretty awesome, though!


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I have to admit this looks very good. Congratulations for your great work !

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Dwedit wrote:
Ever tried Rotsprite? It's really good at resizing and rotating sprites, it uses algorithms optimized for pixel art.

The connection has timed out

I tried the Wayback Machine, and "We were unable to get the robots.txt document to display this page."

I seem to remember reading before that it appears to be something like Scale4x followed by nearest neighbor resampling. Is source code available, or does it work in Wine?


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The link worked today, don't working right now.


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RotSprite is closed-source and Windows-only. I'm working on rewriting it in Python based on the algorithm's description.


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