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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:01 pm 
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ndiddy wrote:
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Recently Firefox blocked the "Stylish" plugin I was using, which was just a simple plugin to inject CSS into websites you wished to customize. Apparently they recently sold it to a marketing company who immediately inserted URL logging and stuff into the plugin to gather marketing data.
I use that extension too but I have disabled automatic updates and telemetry and so on, so it is not blocked. (I create all of the styles myself though so do not need to access their server in order to do so.)

I am not sure why you mention this now, though.


It doesn't matter if you don't use their styles, it still sends them your browser history along with a unique identifier.
I use an old version (from 2015).

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:03 pm 
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IRC also does not require any special software to use; this was part of the design of IRC, to work without needing to install any special software (although it still helps to have special software for IRC, it is not strictly required). All of the others do need software.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:02 pm 
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Can you clarify what you mean by "special software"? At least in the case of Slack and Discord, they can be accessed with a web browser.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:19 pm 
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Slack and Discord require special proprietary software written in JavaScript to run inside the browser, as opposed to a documented protocol widely implemented by third-party client developers. Slack used to have an official bridge to IRC but shut it down. See "The JavaScript Trap" by Richard Stallman.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:23 pm 
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I discovered Ripcord a few weeks ago and it's a much better client for Discord. (Still has all the server-side Discord issues, but at least the client is nicer.)
https://cancel.fm/ripcord/


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:33 pm 
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I have no idea what Slack and Discord even are. I could do some research before posting, but since I'm lazy I decided to ask you guys if this is something I should be looking into in the first place... Are these relevant to our hobby in any meaningful way?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:35 pm 
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They're proprietary persistent text chat services. On Discord, there's a NESdev "server" (set of channels with a shared membership) run by someone named Kaydus.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:14 pm 
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tepples wrote:
They're proprietary persistent text chat services. On Discord, there's a NESdev "server" (set of channels with a shared membership) run by someone named Kaydus.

Who?


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koitsu wrote:
Who?

This one:
https://forums.nesdev.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8769

Who also made a thread about said Discord server way back:
https://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16576


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:06 pm 
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tepples wrote:
Slack and Discord require special proprietary software written in JavaScript to run inside the browser, as opposed to a documented protocol widely implemented by third-party client developers. Slack used to have an official bridge to IRC but shut it down. See "The JavaScript Trap" by Richard Stallman.

Slack also has a documented messaging API: https://api.slack.com/rtm

There are plugins for some chat clients such as WeeChat: https://github.com/wee-slack/wee-slack

tokumaru: They're proprietary chat applications. Slack is targeted for team communication (e.g., in software development), Discord is targeted more towards gamers. Not relevant whatsoever for NES development, unless a community forms in one of these.

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