We've been called out

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Re: We've been called out

Post by tepples » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:18 pm

Revenant wrote:If you're able to download a (apparently inferior) copy of the video from YouTube, what's preventing you from just watching the video as intended in the actual YouTube player?
My laptop's CPU is too slow, and my laptop's display is too small, to watch 1280x720 pixel high-motion video in real time. In addition, I haven't been able to discover a frame-stepping feature through the YouTube player's user interface.

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Re: We've been called out

Post by psycopathicteen » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:25 pm

I just downloaded a program called "4k downloader" which is supposed to support high framerate videos such as 50 or 60 fps. I hope it works.

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Re: We've been called out

Post by rainwarrior » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:32 pm

tepples wrote:I haven't been able to discover a frame-stepping feature through the YouTube player's user interface.
Pause the video, and the keys , and . will step frames backward and forward.

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Re: We've been called out

Post by psycopathicteen » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:36 pm

Wow, I just wasted half an hour downloading this stuff.

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Re: We've been called out

Post by mikejmoffitt » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:37 pm

psycopathicteen wrote:To make it difficult to analyze effects.
This suggestion is totally out there, and it doesn't make sense when the demo ROM is available for downloading.

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Re: We've been called out

Post by psycopathicteen » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:41 pm

I was joking about "intentionally making it difficult to analyze."

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Re: We've been called out

Post by tepples » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:42 pm

But the hardware to run the demo ROM correctly is not widespread in the anglophone world. People with English as a first language in industrialized countries that use or formerly used NTSC, such as the United States and Canada, greatly outnumber people with English as a first language in industrialized countries that use or formerly used PAL, such as Great Britain, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand.

tl;dr: Americans don't have a PAL Mega Drive.

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Re: We've been called out

Post by tokumaru » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:44 pm

psycopathicteen wrote:I just downloaded a program called "4k downloader"
You don't need to download any programs, just use http://youtubemultidownloader.com and be sure to get the 720p version. Some times I also use http://www.clipconverter.cc if the other site doesn't show all formats for whatever reason. YouTube does offer low frame rate versions at 720p too, so resolution alone doesn't guarantee a high frame rate.

EDIT: just tested clipconverter.cc and it shows high and low frame rate versions of the video. Pick the one mislabeled as "60fps", which should be the 50fps version. Then click "download" to specify that you don't want to convert the video, just download it as is, and then click "start".

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Re: We've been called out

Post by Oerg866 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:03 pm

Oh my fxcking god. Never have I seen a nickname ring true in so many ways.

Here you go.

http://mdscene.net/.stuff/what2.mp4

On a different note - My poor CPU is busy reencoding the entire demo for something more suited for uploading (the original was a 11GB ProRes file ...)

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Re: We've been called out

Post by tokumaru » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:07 pm

tepples wrote:tl;dr: Americans don't have a PAL Mega Drive.
Aren't Sega consoles easily mod'able to 50/60fps?

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Re: We've been called out

Post by Oerg866 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:10 pm

They are, but for starters 'Muricans commonly use composite video for watching and modding the console to 50Hz output does not correctly adjust the color burst frequency for the signal so your picture will be in black and white (It's neither NTSC50 nor PAL :D) :(

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Re: We've been called out

Post by psycopathicteen » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:22 pm

I'm just going to say it's probably shifting tiles around from the previous frame, and occasionally rendering a unique frame when things get too distorted.
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Re: We've been called out

Post by Oerg866 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:24 pm

You know absolutely fuckall :mrgreen:

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Re: We've been called out

Post by psycopathicteen » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:26 pm

Do you know how it works then?

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Re: We've been called out

Post by Oerg866 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:34 pm

?????!??!?!

I'm part of the programming team, of course I know how it works.

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