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Author:  gauauu [ Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

[ edit ] Added new screenshot and updated version of the game[ /edit ]

Well, now that it's nearly the last minute, I suddenly decided I might try to squeeze out a competition entry between my other projects. It'll be a super-simple mobile-style endless climber game, based on my Robo-Ninja character from a different game. Just started a couple days ago, so there's not much here yet, but at least I have a screenshot:

We'll see what happens!

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Author:  FrankenGraphics [ Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Robo-Ninja Climb

Great to see you decided to enter the compo after all!

And with a different type of game than i expected :) It's always nice to have a large sprite like that whenever a game design allows for it. It breaks up the 2x2 / 4x2 expectation favourably.

How does the wall facades work? Are the indentations something like grapple points or simply decorations?

Author:  gauauu [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Robo-Ninja Climb

FrankenGraphics wrote:
And with a different type of game than i expected :) It's always nice to have a large sprite like that whenever a game design allows for it. It breaks up the 2x2 / 4x2 expectation favourably.


Yeah, the big character should be fun, although I keep thinking I might have to scale him down a bit to make the gameplay actually work well. Once I add obstacles, it might be too cramped if I keep him the size he is now. But I do want to keep him as large as possible.

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How does the wall facades work? Are the indentations something like grapple points or simply decorations?

Just decoration. (but the arc also provides a place for my sprite-0 hit so that the spikes at the bottom have a nice smooth bouncing motion, (animated gif here).

Also, my palettes need some work, the current one washes out some of the variation in the walls that looked better in the original source graphics.

Next step is adding obstacles so I can see if the large character is going to work. If so, then I need to go back and spend some time on sprite-chr to see how many frames of animation I can pack in.

(I need to check the rules and see what I'm allowed to do in terms of number of chr banks)

Author:  gauauu [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Robo-Ninja Climb

Day 5: Added an (incomplete) title screen, and started on obstacles, first focusing on spikes on the side walls. Also added a death sequence. If I can keep this pace up, I'll probably actually finish before the deadline.

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Author:  pubby [ Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Robo-Ninja Climb

It looks pretty cool.

I think you should find a way to hide the seam though (bottom left and right corners)

Author:  gauauu [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Robo-Ninja Climb

Day 7. Obstacles draw correctly. Spent the whole evening working on making the attribute table updates for the obstacles work correctly.

Next up is getting collisions working, and refining the main character sprite a bit.


pubby wrote:
It looks pretty cool.

I think you should find a way to hide the seam though (bottom left and right corners)


Not a bad idea. That will come later, if I actually have time for polish :)

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Author:  Ryoga [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

The current state in which the game is located looks great. What kind of new obstacles do you have to add beyond the spiked walls?

Author:  FrankenGraphics [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

Looking neat! :D

Maybe you could separate the red spikes from the blue background with a highlight or outline or shadow?

Author:  gauauu [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

FrankenGraphics wrote:
Looking neat! :D

Maybe you could separate the red spikes from the blue background with a highlight or outline or shadow?


Yeah, they need something. Part of it is that my palettes need work. There's supposed to be 2 different colors on the spikes, but while testing, I ended up reusing the same color twice in their palette.

Author:  gauauu [ Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

First full playable draft is done!

5 levels, 3 power-ups. Not a big game, but accomplished my goal of having something interesting to submit.
Next I need to go through and pretty it up a bit with nicer music, some sound effects, and possibly more variation in the graphics.

If anyone's interested in testing and giving me feedback (particularly any bugs, or how the difficulty level is), let me know!

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Author:  team_disposable [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

Looks really nice, love the graphics for the ninja - the palette change in the last screenshot gives it a lot more pop. Is there a timing or a scoring element? Seems like it would really suit a score attack or endless running mode.

Author:  gauauu [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

team_disposable wrote:
Is there a timing or a scoring element? Seems like it would really suit a score attack or endless running mode.


My first plan was to make it endless, but it ended up being difficult to get random layouts that were actually fun. So I changed it to 5 hardcoded/designed levels instead. The goal now would be too beat it in the fewest number of deaths.

The almost-finished version can be downloaded here if you want to try it.

Author:  team_disposable [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

Nice, it feels like a very complete package.

Is the intention that you hop upwards by jumping on the same side? It took me a few deaths before I figured that out - at first I figured that was what the sliding was. It's also a little tricky to control when there are spikes on both sides (although that could be by design!) as the ninja seems to jump slightly below where they are when jumping to the other side.

Also, on the page you link above you've got the text "Nintenda" instead of "Nintendo".

Congratulations on nearly completing it already, you're certainly got much farther along then I have!

Author:  gauauu [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

team_disposable wrote:
Is the intention that you hop upwards by jumping on the same side? It took me a few deaths before I figured that out - at first I figured that was what the sliding was.


Yup. I purposely didn't completely explain that, but did hint at it by mentioning that you could steer your jump. Did you feel like it was too hard to figure out, and should have been more explicitly mentioned?

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It's also a little tricky to control when there are spikes on both sides (although that could be by design!) as the ninja seems to jump slightly below where they are when jumping to the other side.


Yeah, that supposed to be part of the challenge. But if it feels frustratingly difficult before level 2 or 3, then I made it too hard. Where did it start getting particularly difficult for you?

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Also, on the page you link above you've got the text "Nintenda" instead of "Nintendo".


Good catch, thanks.

Author:  team_disposable [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Progress Thread: Robo-Ninja Climb

It wasn't too difficult to figure out, I just wasn't sure if I was missing something. I even checked and remapped up in case there was something off with my keyboard!

I can't really comment on difficulty - I only played through to level two, and I didn't really line up many of the jumps (which I presume you are meant to do) so I died quite a bit.

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